Wednesday, May 31, 2006

This Will Surely Inspire Some Debate...

Tom Watson's undies are in a bunch over the National Review's published list of the the top fifty conservative rock and roll songs by John J. Miller. Number one: "Won't Get Fooled Again". Score one for the Misanthrope! Looks like Chrispy gets delt a blow since the conservative rag claims both "The Trees" (#11) and "The Red Barchetta" (#22) as anthems of GOP ideology.

I was excited to see Iron Maiden's name on the list since we've talked about them in this context until I saw that the tune selection was “Rime of the Ancient Mariner”(#29). Oh well...

The Stones (#3 & 33) and The Georgia Sattellites (#32) get a nod.

Unfortunately, John Miller and NRO lose all the fake steam generated by such a silly (but fun) list by adding a Creed song to it. Somebody probably needs to clue them in.

15 Comments:

At 1:45 PM, May 31, 2006, Blogger Jackson said...

Oxymoron - Rock and Roll is decidedly NOT conservative, and I doubt (Creed aside) these artists would consider their work supportive of the Conservative ideal. Bruce has time and again had to defend his (boring) song as being a criticism of American Republicanism.

Don't even start with the Rush - my God - they are Canadian - that's tantamount to being Soviet!

Egads - wrong, wrong, wrong....

 
At 2:15 PM, May 31, 2006, Blogger Tony Alva said...

A commentor over on Balloon Juice refered to Canadia as Canuckistan and their citizens as Canuckistani's.

 
At 3:26 PM, May 31, 2006, Blogger Dave Cavalier said...

I read Miller's list and his subsequent post about "conservative" rock songs and I think he is torturing these lyrics to death to find "conservative" messages. He cites "Victoria" by the Kinks as a "conservative" song, presumably because it speaks of the glory of Victoria's reign. But the song is part of "Arthur," which is not necessarily supportive of the British Empire at its height. How to square "Victoria" with "Some Mother's Son"? It's ridiculous.

Jackson, Peart (at least, possibly the others) is a hard core Ayn Rand disciple and you probably wouldn't like his politics very much.

 
At 3:34 PM, May 31, 2006, Blogger Tony Alva said...

Agreed, Miller is totally streching, but it's funny how it got into Tom W.'s craw enough for him to blog about it.

I'm 100% certain that Bush and his entire cabinet have no idea who Iron Maiden are, nor would any of them recognize a single tune on the list.

 
At 6:44 PM, May 31, 2006, Blogger Jackson said...

Ayn Rand was a dude?

 
At 10:26 PM, May 31, 2006, Blogger Dave Cavalier said...

No, but I am pretty sure Neil Peart is a dude.

Do you have information that shows otherwise?

 
At 9:40 AM, June 01, 2006, Blogger Tony Alva said...

From Wikipedia...

(Ayn Rand) was fiercely proud of the United States, and in later years said to the graduating class at West Point, "I can say—not as a patriotic bromide, but with full knowledge of the necessary metaphysical, epistemological, ethical, political and esthetic roots—that the United States of America is the greatest, the noblest and, in its original founding principles, the only moral country in the history of the world. and always, BEAT NAVY!"

Okay, I added the last line, sorry.

 
At 11:43 AM, June 01, 2006, Blogger Dave Cavalier said...

Didn't Ayn Rand also say:

"There is trouble in the forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the maples scream OPPRESSION
While the Oaks just shake their heads!"

 
At 3:47 PM, June 06, 2006, Blogger Chrispy said...

"For a start, the extent of my influence by the writings of Ayn Rand should not be overestimated. I am no one's disciple." Neil Peart

 
At 4:04 PM, June 06, 2006, Blogger Chrispy said...

Neil Peart is constantly called a hardcore Rand fan by people who have a limited knowledge of Rush and their history.

I think, if anything, his lyrics have revealed Peart's lack of dogma, This is not a guy who can be fit into any political group. Hell, "The Spirit of Radio" is about what profits have done to music. "Red Tide" is about the environment. "2112" is about the man vs. the system. "Witch Hunt" is about prejudice. "The Big Money" got no soul.

To call Peart (and Lee and Lifeson) "hard core Ayn Rand disciples" is ridiculous.

 
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